Ivory Tower
Democrats VP Candidate, Pro Natalism, and The Cost Of The Olympics
Season 21 Episode 5 | 26m 46sVideo has Closed Captions
Democrats VP Candidate, Pro Natalism, and The Cost Of The Olympics
Democrats VP Candidate, Pro Natalism, and The Cost Of The Olympics
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Democrats VP Candidate, Pro Natalism, and The Cost Of The Olympics
Season 21 Episode 5 | 26m 46sVideo has Closed Captions
Democrats VP Candidate, Pro Natalism, and The Cost Of The Olympics
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorshipTHE DEMOCRATS' NEW VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE.
ARE FEWER CHILDREN IN THE WORLD A PROBLEM.
AND THE VALUES OF THE OLYMPICS.
STAY TUNED "THE IVORY TOWER" IS NEXT.
♪ ♪ WELCOME TO IVORY TOWER.
I'M BARBARA FOUGHT, FROM SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY.
JOINING ME ON THE PANEL THIS WEEK ARE -- TARA ROSS, FROM ONONDAGA COMMUNITY COLLEGE.
SARAH PRALLE, FROM SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY ANIRBAN ACHARYA, FROM LEMOYNE COLLEGE AND BEN BAUGHMAN, FROM GANNON UNIVERSITY.
THE BIG NEWS OF THE WEEK-- AT LEAST ON WEDNESDAY MORNING WHEN WE ARE RECORDING-- IS THE CHOICE OF MINNESOTA GOVERNOR TIM WALZ AS THE DEMOCRAT'S VICE-PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE.
BY NOW YOU KNOW HE'S A SECOND TERM GOVERNOR, WAS A SIX-TERM CONGRESSMEMBER AND SERVED IN THE NATIONAL GUARD.
BUT ALSO -- HE'S GOOD AT FIXING A CAR, HUNTING FOR PHEASANTS AND SPEAKING MANDARIN.
SO, WITH THAT COMBINATION, BEN, HOW IS HE GOING TO PLAY?
WILL HE HELP THE TICKET HERE IN CENTRAL NEW YORK?
YEAH HIS BACKGROUND IN THE MILITARY, AS A TEACHER, AS A COACH, AS A CONGRESSMAN.
HE ALSO CAME FROM A TOWN OF 400, SO HE UNDERSTANDS SMALL TOWN AMERICA.
>> HOW ABOUT WITH RURAL FARMERS AND ALL?
HE GREW UP ON A FARM.
>> HE DID, YES, ABSOLUTELY.
>> THAT MIGHT HAVE SOME KIND OF APPEAL ANIRBAN?
>> I THINK HE INJECTED IN AN ENERGY INTO THE DESPONDENCY WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A FEW WEEKS AGO.
HE IS FUNNY.
HE IS ENERGETIC.
HE KNOWS HOW TO EQUIP AND QIP AND JAB IN A VERY INTERESTING WAY BUT HE IS ALSO PROGRESSIVE.
HE HAD BROUGHT IN FREE SCHOOL LUNCHES.
HE HAD MADE PAID FAMILY LEAVE AND MEDICAL LEAVE AND FREE COLLEGE TUITION FOR PEOPLE UNDER 80,000.
HE ACE VERY GOOD LABOR CHOICE.
LABOR GROUPS HAVE COME OUT AND SAID HE IS VERY GOOD.
I'M A VERY JADED SCEPTIC POLITICAL SCIENTIST TRAINED TO BE CRITICAL OF EVERYTHING BUT I WAS FEELING HOPE.
HE SEEMED LIKE LOUIS BLACK ONLY BETTER, AND HE REALLY WORKED THE CROWD VERY, VERY WELL.
AND I THINK HE STANDS A CHANCE.
HE SINGLE HANDEDLY COINED THE WORD WEIRD TO DESCRIBE, YOU KNOW, TRUMP AND HIS-- >> SARAH GAVE WEIRD AN A LAST WEEK.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
CALLED HIM WEIRD.
TRUMP AND HIS COUCH LOVERS, I SUPPOSE.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, HE COMES OUT VERY HOPEFUL.
HE TALKS ABOUT IDEAS OF NEIGHBORS AND SORT OF-- INSTEAD OF USING WORDS LIKE FELLOW AMERICANS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I SEE HOPE.
I SEE HOPE AND I ALSO SEE TRUMP MELTING OVER TRUTH SOCIAL AND WHEN TRUMP MELTS, IT'S A GOOD DAY FOR ME.
>> I WOULD ABSOLUTELY DISAGREE.
QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK WHAT HARRIS HAS DONE IS CHOSEN A FOLKSIER VERSION OF HERSELF.
HE IS JUST AS PROGRESSIVE AS SHE IS AND IEMED NOT SURE THAT THAT IS GOING TO PLAY AS WELL IN RURAL AREAS AND TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, IT'S ALMOST AS IF SHE CHOSE A STEREOTYPE OF WHAT PEOPLE FROM THE MIDWEST ARE LIKE, WHAT PEOPLE FROM RURAL AREAS ARE LIKE.
AND IF HE HAD BEEN A STEREOTYPE AND BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE MODERATE, THAT MIGHT WORK OUT VERY WELL.
BUT BASICALLY, LIKE I SAY, SHE CHOSE SOMEONE WHO PRETTY MUCH AGREES WITH ALL OF HER POLICIES.
NOW, IF THE INSIDERS WHO HAVE BEEN GIVING TIDBITS OF WHAT THE PROCESS IS LIKE TO BE BELIEVED, THERE IS ALSO SOMETHING ELSE THAT MAY BE OF CONCERN AND THAT IS THAT SHE PURPOSELY CHOSE SOMEONE WHO WOULDN'T CHALLENGE HER, WHO WOULDN'T SORT OF STEAL HER THUNDER.
AND IF WE CAN GET ANY SORT OF PROOF THAT THAT WAS TRULY PART OF HER THOUGHT PROCESS, THEN THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PLAYED UPON ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.
>> I THINK THOSE ARE INTERESTING POINTS, TARA AND I'M GLAD-- WE ARE DISAGREEING A LITTLE BIT.
HE IS PROGRESSIVE.
HE IS HAS A VERY PROGRESSIVE POLICY RECORD, BUT I THINK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT ANIRBAN SAID I AGREE WITH, HE KNOWS HOW TO DEFEND THE RECORD IN TERMS THAT PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND, RIGHT?
AND HE IS NOT BACKING DOWN ON IT.
AND I THINK THAT THAT IS CERTAINLY APPEALS TO THE LEFT, AND LARGE SWATHS OF DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FEEDING KIDS, AND GIVING PEOPLE TIME OFF WHEN THEY HAVE A SICK CHILD OR AN ELDERLY PARENT THAT NEEDS CARE, THOSE ARE ALSO JUST KITCHEN TABLE ISSUES THAT I THINK THE VAST MAJORITY OF AMERICANS WOULD SUPPORT AND CAN GET BEHIND.
AND SO-- AND I THINK THAT HE ALSO ADDS SOMETHING TO THE TICKET WHICH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ANOTHER REASON SHE CHOSE HIM IS BECAUSE SHE UNDERSTANDS THAT PART OF THE CAMPAIGN IS ABOUT GETTING ATTENTION, KEEPING MOMENTUM.
AND IT'S REALLY HARD TO BREAKTHROUGH THESE DAYS.
PEOPLE'S ATTENTION IS CONSUMED BY SO MANY OTHER THINGS.
NOT ALL OF US ARE POLITICAL JUNKIES.
I AM, THAT'S PAYING ATTENTION TO THE ELECTION DHP AND HE BROKE THROUGH ON SOCIAL MEDIA WITH THE WEIRD, YOU KNOW, PHRASE AND KIND OF THE FOLKSY NATURE AND I KNOW THE ONLINE WORLD IS NOT REALITY BUT BOY THE PEOPLE ONLINE ARE EXCITED.
AND HE-- THERE IS DAD MEMES GOING AROUND NOW LIKE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, ARE TALKING ABOUT HIM LIKE HE IS YOUR FATHER AND I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING INTANGIBLE ABOUT IT THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
>> AND PERCEPTION IS REALITY.
THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.
IT DOES COME DOWN TO THE MESSAGING, I THINK IS WHAT TARA WAS HITTING ON.
YES, MARBLING KELLEY WOULD HAVE BEEN THE MORE MODERATE PICK, BUT THEY ALSO KNOW THAT THEY ARE HAVE TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING AND THEY'RE HITTING A LOT OF PLACES AND IT'S GOT TO COME ACROSS GENUINE.
HE COMES ACROSS GENUINE.
THE STORY IS THERE.
YES, HE HAS GOT SOME PROGRESSIVE VIEWS, HE IS A DEMOCRAT.
BUT HE IS ALSO A PROUD GUN OWNER AND DOES BELIEVE IN THE SECOND AMENDMENT, BUT ALSO KEEPING OTHER PEOPLE SAFE.
SO THAT IS AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE TO GET ACROSS.
>> WHAT ABOUT THE POLICE COMMUNITY BECAUSE HE HAS GOTTEN SOME FLAK HANDLING ALL OF THE RYEOUTS AFTER GEORGE FLOYD.
WHERE WILL THE LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY BE ON HIM?
>> WELL, GENERALLY SPEAKING, LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY TENDS TO BE REPUBLICAN TO START WITH, BUT I DO THINK THAT A LOT OF THAT-- YES, IT WAS AWFUL AND YES THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT SHOULD HAVE TAKEN PLACE SOONER, BUT THE NATIONAL GUARD ISN'T AN ANSWER ALL.
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADDITIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT WERE CALLED IN TO HELP THAT AGENCY RATHER THAN SENDING IN TROOPS THAT DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF TRAINING IN CROWD CONTROL AND THAT TENDS TO MAKE THINGS HISTORICALLY WORSE THAN BETTER.
AND I THINK HE UNDERSTOOD THAT.
>> LAST WORD.
>> I THINK THE FUNDAMENTAL THING THAT HE HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO IS MAKING TRUMP AND HIS COMPANY LOOK JADED, BACKYARD, STALE WEARING TIN HATS IN THEIR BASEMENT.
WHEREAS THIS GROUP SEEMS TO BE ENERGIZED GROUP.
AND YES, WHAT IS BAD WITH SCHOOL MEALS?
HE TALKS ABOUT ONE BEAUTIFUL THING, THE COMMON GOOD.
HE GREW UP IN A SMALL TOWN WITH 400 PEOPLE AND THEY THOUGHT ABOUT THE COMMON GOOD.
SO WHAT IS THE COMMON GOOD?
AND THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT TRUMP CANNOT ANSWER.
HE WILL START HYPERVENTILATING AND GETTING EXTREMELY DEFENSIVE AND IT WILL BE A FUN TIME TO TROLL TRUMP AND HIS COMPANY.
>> WELL, MANY POLITICAL SCIENTISTS SAY THE VICE PRESIDENT DOESN'T REALLY A MATTER WITH THE TICKETS BUT IT COULD BE DIFFERENT THIS YEAR, WE WILL SEE.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE OTHER VICE PRESIDENT USUALLY CANDIDATE REPUBLICAN J.D.
VANCE.
GOT SOME FLAK FOR SAYING THE COUNTRY IS "RUN BY A BUNCH OF CHILDLESS CAT LADIES WHO ARE MISERABLE .•" BUT HE IS NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO IS CONCERNED THAT THE BIRTH RATE IS IN DECLINE.
THIS CHART SHOWS THE DROP OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS IN THE U.S.
THERE'S A RESURGENCE IN A MOVEMENT OF PERSONS WHO THINK THE WORLD ISN'T PRODUCING ENOUGH CHILDREN AND THEY WANT TO CHANGE THAT.
IT'S CALLED PRONATALISM.
AND ZAIRE RA,-- SARAH, IS HAVING MORE CHILDREN A PROB-- IS HAVING MORE CHILDREN A PROBLEM.
>> IT'S HARD FOR ME TO THINK THAT DECLINING BIRTH RATES OR FERTILITY RATES ARE A BAD THING BECAUSE IN PART THAT'S TYPICALLY ASSOCIATED WITH HIGHER ECONOMIC GROWTH IN SOCIETIES, WITH WOMEN'S EMPOWERMENT AND EDUCATION.
IT'S ASSOCIATED TYPICALLY WITH RATHER GOOD THINGS, RIGHT?
THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IT, ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE RATIO OF THE WORKING POPULATION TO OLDER POPULATIONS, ET CETERA.
BUT THAT'S A QUESTION, THAT'S A SEPARATE PROBLEM THAT YOU CAN SOLVE IN VARIOUS WAYS, RIGHT, THROUGH DISTRIBUTIONAL CHANGES, THROUGH OTHER WAYS OF FINDING TO CARE FOR OUR ELDERLY.
THE OTHER REASON IT IS HARD FOR ME TO TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY IS BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO TRUST THE PEOPLE'S MOTIVES WHO ARE MAKING THESE ARGUMENTED.
MANY OF THEM ARE REALLY ONLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE BIRTH RATES IN COUNTRIES WITH THE MAJORITY WHITE POPULATIONS.
BIRTH RATES ARE GOING UP IN SOME PARTS OF THE WORLD BUT THEY'RE NOT REALLY-- THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT DECLINING WHITE POPULATIONS FRANKLY AND THAT'S, I THINK, ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE.
AND THE OTHER ONE I FEEL LIKE THEY'RE TRYING TO CONTROL WOMEN'S BODIES AND SORT OF MOVE US BACKWARDS.
SO THOSE ARE TWO BIG CONCERNS I HAVE.
AND THE THIRD ONE IS ABOUT THE SORT OF ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF A GROWING POPULATION.
WE ALREADY HAVE EIGHT BILLION PEOPLE ON THE PLANET.
HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE CAN WE ACTUALLY SUPPORT.
ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEMS ARE CAUSED BY MANY THINGS, NOT JUST POPULATION.
I GET THAT.
BUT AT SOME POINT, WE HAVE TO ADMIT THAT MORE PEOPLE USES MORE RESOURCES, DESTROYS MORE HABITAT, AND WE ALREADY HAVE A BIODIVERSITY CRISIS.
70% OF THE WORLD SPECIES HAVE DECLINED OR DISAPPEARED OVER THE LAST, YOU KNOW, 50 YEARS.
THAT'S A PROBLEM.
>> TARA, WHERE ARE YOU ON THIS?
IS FEWER CHILDREN, MORE CHILDREN AN UP OR A DOWN?
>> I THINK IT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT.
SARAH MADE EXCELLENT POINTS.
BUT IT'S ALSO A POINT THAT YOU TYPICALLY FIND MORE INNOVATION, MORE ECONOMIC GROWTH COMES WHEN YOU HAVE A STEADY REPLACEMENT YOUNGER POPULATION.
AND INCREASINGLY, WE DON'T HAVE THAT.
WE HAVE FEWER AND FEWER UNDER FIVE PEOPLE BEING BORN, MORE AND MORE PEOPLE WHO ARE OVER 65 AND SO THAT MAY NOT HAVE AN IMPACT IMMEDIATELY.
BUT IT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT IF THAT IS WHERE MOST OF THOSE PEOPLE, THOSE UNDER FIVES ARE WHERE EVENTUALLY YOUR INNOVATION, YOUR ECONOMIC GROWTH IS GOING TO COME FROM.
I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT IS ALSO TRUE IS MOST OF THE POPULATION GROWTH, BY THE TIME YOU REACH 2100, WILL BE FROM SUBSAHARRAN AFRICA AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A MAJOR DISTRIBUTION IN TERMS OF THE WORLD.
THERE ARE WAYS TO ADDRESS THAT BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT PART OF WHAT SARAH SAID IN TERMS OF EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT, ET CETERA.
IF WE DON'T MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT SO THAT THERE IS MORE EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT SO THAT THERE IS BETTER HEALTHCARE IN THOSE AREAS, YES, THAT MAY BE WHERE MORE OF YOUR POPULATION GROWTH IS COMING FROM, BUT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN TERMS OF THE IMPACT ON THE WORLD OF THAT POPULATION GROWTH?
>> J.D.
VANCE, IT'S DIFFICULT TO TAKE ANYTHING HE SAYS SERIOUSLY.
HILLBILLILY GOING TO YALE, COME ON.
HE IS TRYING TO DEMONIZE VAST SWATHS OF THE AMERICAN POPULATION.
PEOPLE, IF THEY WANT TO HAVE BABIES, THEY SHOULD HAVE BABIES, IF THEY DON'T WANT, THEY SHOULD NOT.
MANY PEOPLE CANNOT EVEN IF THEY TRY.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY.
BUT THE SITUATION IS THIS, RIGHT?
YES, FERTILITY, JENNIFER TILT RATES ARE FALL AGO CROSS THE WESTERN WORLD, JAPAN AND SOUTH KOREA, THAT'S A CONCERN FOR LARGER SOCIAL SECURITY AND OTHER SOCIAL SERVICE SAFETY NETS THAT WOULD BE UNDER STRAIN.
WITHOUT LET'S TALK TO THE REGRESSIVE REPUBLICANS ABOUT THAT.
WHY NOT?
SUPPORT ON A FEDERALLY MANDATED BILLS THAT RP, YOU KNOW, FOCUS NEO-NATAL CARE, PRENATAL CARE.
GIVE THINGS THAT SWEDEN GIVES TO THEIR PARENTS.
YOU YACK ABOUT ALL THIS STUPID STUFF AND YOU ARE NOT PUTTING YOUR MOUTH WHERE ACTUALLY YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT LIKE PROVIDE THOSE INFRASTRUCTURES, SOCIAL INFRASTRUCTURES WITH WHICH PEOPLE CAN HAVE BABIES.
NOW IF YOU BRING THAT UP, OH NO, WE CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, WHAT ABOUT BROWN AND BLACK PEOPLE HAVE BABIES, RIGHT?
SO IT'S JUST COMPLETELY ASSAN NE.
IT'S RUBBISH.
>> I'LL TAKE A LINE FROM WALZ AND SAY GOVERNMENT WISE MIND YOUR OWN DAMN BUSINESS.
ON A STEP FURTHER THOUGH, IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE REPUBLICANS ARE GENUINELY CONCERNED ABOUT AND WANT TO GET BEHIND, IT DOES HAVE SOME INPUT WITH THE ECONOMY.
IT DOES SUPPORT THE OLDER POPULATION WITH YOUNGER WORKERS.
IF THAT BOUNCES ISN'T THERE, THEN THE YOUNGER WORKERS ARE PAYING HIGHER TAXES IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THE OLDER PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE NEED TO BE INCENTIVIZE.
CHILD SUPPORT PROGRAMS IN PLACE, FLEXIBLE WORK PROGRAMS PUSHED OUT FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S GOVERNMENT'S ROLE TO DO THAT.
>> BUT THOSE ARE GOOD POLICIES IN AND OF THEMSELVES AND SHOULD BE THE RATIONALE FOR THEM SHOULD BE BASED ON THINGS LIKE WE WANT KIDS TO BE HEALTHY.
WE WANT PARENTS TO NOT BE SO STRESSED OUT AND, YOU KNOW, NOT BECAUSE WE WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE MORE BABIES, WHICH, AS YOU SAID, IS A COMPLETELY INDIVIDUAL DECISION.
>> TARA, SHOULD PROGRESSIVES PAY A LITTLE MORE ATTENTION TO THIS MOVEMENT THOUGH?
>> ABSOLUTELY I THINK THEY SHOULD.
SIMPLY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE CDC ITSELF HAS SAID THAT THERE IS A CHANGING POPULATION, THAT POPULATION GROWTH IS NOT THE SAME IN THE WEST, ET CETERA.
SO I THINK IT DOES DESERVE MORE FOCUS ON THE PART OF PROGRESSIVES.
AND I ALSO THINK PROGRESSIVES NEED TO BE THINK AGO HEAD IN TERMS OF HOW DO WE WORK WITH REPUBLICANS ON THIS ISSUE.
>> WELL, OUR THIRD TOPIC, LET ME MOVE US TO, THE OLYMPICS, THEY'RE CONCLUDING ON SUNDAY.
EVERY FOUR YEARS WE MARVEL AT THE DISCIPLINE, STRENGTH AND COURAGE OF OLYMPIANS.
I READ THAT THE FOUNDER OF THE MODERN OLYMPICS SAID HIS GOAL WAS THAT THE GAMES WOULD BRING GLOBAL HARMONY.
WHAT DO YOU SEE WHICH, I HADN'T HEARD BEFORE.
BUT TARA, DO YOU THINK THE OLYMPICS ARE WORTH THE COST?
>> I ALWAYS WORRY WITH HOW EXCESSIVE THE OLYMPICS HAVE BECOME, FLASHIER, FANCIER.
THIS WAS SOMETHING I GENERALLY WORRIED ABOUT BUT UNTIL I REALLY RESEARCHED THIS, I DID NOT REALIZE JUST HOW MUCH OF A MONEY DRAIN THIS IS ON ALMOST EVERY COUNTRY THAT HAS HOSTED THE OLYMPICS.
AND INCREASINGLY, I DON'T THEIR IT'S WORTH IT.
YES, WE HAVE THIS WONDERFUL COUPLE OF WEEKS WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE SORT OF WATCH ATHLETES AND WE ARE IN AWE OF THEIR EXCELLENCE, ET CETERA.
BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE.
THE COST OVERRUNS FOR THE OLYMPICS FROM 1968-20 SO IN THE-- 20 SO WAS 252% AND WITH THE INTEREST INTERESTER OLYMPICS IS 35%.
>> OVER THE PREVIOUS YEAR?
>> OVER THE BUDGETED AMOUNT.
AND IT'S A WELL KNOWN SECRET, LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY, THAT THERE IS THE BUDGET THAT IS PROPOSED BY WHATEVER COUNTRY'S OLYMPIC COMMITTEE AND THEN THERE IS THE ACTUAL WHAT THEY SPEND.
ANOTHER PROBLEM IS THAT MOST OF THESE OLYMPIC SITES END UP BASICALLY BEING A DRAIN ON THE ECONOMY AFTERWARDS IN THE SENSE THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENS IS THE POOR ARE TYPICALLY MOVED OUT SO THAT THE OLYMPIC VILLAGES AND SITES CAN BE BUILT AND THEN AFTERWARDS, YES, THERE IS SOME EFFORT TO TRY TO REUSE THEM, BUT TYPICALLY IT NEVER EQUALS THE COST OF BUILDING THE OLYMPIC VILLAGES.
>> BUT I WONDER, ANIRBAN, I MEAN, PARIS LOOKED LOVELY IN THOSE OPENING CEREMONIES, AND MADE ME WANT TO GO AGAIN TO PARIS.
IS THE BRANDING HELPFUL FOR THOSE CITIES?
>> I WOULD TEND TO AGREE WITH SARAH, RIGHT?
OLYMPICS, AS-- SORRY, WITH TARA.
OLYMPICS TEND TO LEAVE BEHIND IT A VAST SWATH OF UNUSED INFRASTRUCTURE WHICH IS VERY WASTEFUL IN TERMS OF MONEY.
PARIS IS TRYING TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
THEY HAVE THESE MIXED USED SPACES FOR ATHLETES THAT WILL BE LATER ON USED FOR OTHER THINGS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THE RESIDENTS WERE NOT HAPPY THAT THEY WERE EVICTED DUE TO THIS ISSUE AND APPARENTLY ONE U.S. TRIATHLETE WAS HE WANTED TO BE IMMUNE TO E-COLI.
ON THE WHOLE IT'S SHOW BUSINESS.
, SHE WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE HOUSING SITUATION THERE AND THE FOOD.
IT'S DIFFICULT TO NOT HAVE OLYMPICS.
IT'S SOMETHING WE GREW UP WITH.
IT'S SOMETHING AS A PART OF WORLD CULTURE, IF THERE IS A WORLD CULTURE, BUT I GUESS, BECAUSE SCHOLARS ARE MUCH MORE AND OTHER URBAN PLANNERS ARE MUCH MORE COGNIZANT ABOUT THESE ISSUES, WE MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT TACT WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE LESS COST OVERRUNS BUT PARIS IS A BRANDING AND EVERYBODY WANTS IT, EVEN IF SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, IT MAKES IT BAD FOR THE LOCAL POPULATION.
>> SURPRISINGLY I'M GOING PUSH BACK A LITTLE BIT.
BARS BARS LOANA-- BARCELONA SPAIN IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF TAKING THE SITE AND FLIPPING THE ECONOMY WHERE THE RICHER AREAS OF TOWN WERE AFTER THE OLYMPICS MOVED OUT, THAT BECAME THE AREA AFTER FLUENT PEOPLE BUYING UP THE AREAS IN PLACES THAT WERE ALREADY BUILT.
BACK TO THE OPENING.
I HAPPEN TO BE TOM THE ONLY PERSON ON THE PANEL WHO WAS NOT SUPER EXCITED BY ALL OF THE OPENING.
I THINK THAT IT SHOULD REPRESENT THE VALUES THAT OLYMPICS PUTS FORWARD, WHICH IS EXCELLENCE, RESPECT AND FRIENDSHIP.
YES, FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION IS LIMITED ONLY BY RESPECT FOR OTHERS AND IT SHOULD REPRESENT THE VALUES OF OTHERS AND I THINK WHEN YOU CROSS LINES THAT ARE MAKING FUN OF OTHER PEOPLE'S RELIGION, I THINK AT THAT POINT IT IS NOT RESPECTFUL.
>> WHAT IS YOUR TAKE?
>> I'M A FAN OF THE OLYMPICS, YOU KNOW, AND I AGREE THAT WE COULD DO IT BETTER AND ONE OF MY THOUGHTS IS WHY DON'T WE JUST PICK ONE CITY LIKE ATHENS AND JUST DO THE SUMMER OLYMPICS EVERY FOUR YEARS THERE AND THE WORLD CAN PITCH IN TO COVER THE COST RATHER THAN HAVING TO BUILD AL ALL THESE STRUCTURES AND, YOU KNOW, AROUND THE WORLD.
AND IN TERMS OF THE WINTER OLYMPICS, THAT'S GOING TO BE-- YOU HAVE TO PICK SOMEWHERE REALLY COLD BECAUSE WE HAVE CLIMATE CHANGE AND THEY'RE STRUGGLING TO PUT ON SOME OF THE EVENTS AT THE WINTER OLYMPICS BECAUSE OF DISAY PEERING-- DISAPPEARING SNOW.
I WOULD SAY ABOUT PARIS, TOO, THE FACT THAT THE SIENNES HASN'T BEEN SWUM IN 100 YEARS AND THEY DID IT, I THINK IS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE AND SHOWS WE CAN SOLVE PROBLEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, POLLUTED WATER, IF BEE REALLY PUT OUR MIND TO IT AND PUT THE EFFORT AND THE MONEY INTO CLEANING UP OUR RIVERS.
SO, IN A SENSE, THE OLYMPICS COULD PROVIDE AN EXAMPLE OF LIKE WE CAN DO THIS AND PARIS IS TRYING TO HAVE A SMALLER ENVIRONMENTAL FOOTPRINT AND I THINK THAT THAT HAS BEEN A GOOD DEVELOPMENT.
>> THE NEXT ONES ARE COMING UP IN ITALY AND THEN BACK HERE IN THE STATES IN L.A. TIME TO OPEN UP THE GRADEBOOK, TARA.
WHO IS GETTING YOUR F. >> TO GEORGIA DUDUKA ATH ATHLETE -FOR-ONE OF THE WORST EXAMPLES OF POOR SPORTSMANSHIP I'VE EVER SEEN IN THE OLYMPICS.
AFTER FRENCH ATHLETE TEDDY REINER WON THEIR QUARTER FINAL MATCH, HE PUT HIS HAND IN HIS FACE AFTER KICKING HIM.
TO DATE THERE HAS BEEN NO PUBLIC APOLOGY FROM HIM.
>> SARAH, YOUR F. >> OVER THE WEEKEND, VIOLENCE ERUPTED IN SEVERAL CITY AS ROUND THE UNITED KINGDOM INCITED BY FAR RIGHT ANTI-IMMIGRANT GROUPS AND FANNED BY DISINFORMATION ABOUT THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON WHO ATTACKED CHILDREN AT A DANCE CLASS IN NORTHERN ENGLAND.
THE ONLINE RUMORS IDENTIFIED FALSELY THE ATTACKER AS AN UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANT AND EXTREMIST GROUPS SHOULD TAKE TO THE STREET.
LAST WEEK WE TALKED ABOUT THE DANGERS OF DISINFORMATION AND MISINFORMATION AND UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE SEEING HOW TRAGIC THE CONSEQUENCES OF THAT CAN BE.
>> ANIRBAN.
>> MY EF GOES TO THE ISRAELI MILITARY'S DEADLIEST ATTACKS WHICH WAS A DESIGNATED SAFE ZONE KILLING AT LEAST 90 PALESTINIAN AND INJURING HUNDREDS.
HOW MANY CHILDREN MUST DIE WHILE OUR U.S.
LAWMAKERS SHAMELESSLY CLAP AT THE VENGEFUL ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER'S GAS LIGHTING SPEECH.
>> AND BEN, YOUR F. >> TO SQUATTER RIGHTS.
HERE IN NEW YORK, SQUATTERS HAVE THE RIGHT TO IMPACT PROPERTY OWNERS IN A VERY NEGATIVE WAY.
IF THEY SET UP RESIDENCY WITHIN 30 DAYS OF BEING ON SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY FOR OUR SNOW BIRDS WHILE YOU ARE OUT OF TOWN, IF SOMEBODY MOVES INTO YOUR HOUSE AND IS THERE FOR 30 DAYS, THEN THERE ARE A LOT OF STEPS YOU HAVE TO TAKE.
YOU HAVE TO GIVE NOTICE TO QUIT.
HAVE YOU TO FILE AN EVICTION LAWSUIT.
SQUATTERS HAVE TO BE SERVED WITH THAT LAWSUIT, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO BE SUMMONED TO COURT WHICH ALL TAKES AT LEAST 30 TO 45 DAYS, BUT IN REALITY IT'S TAKING A YEAR TO TWO YEARS TO GET SQUATTERS OUT OF THEIR HOUSE.
>> WELL, LET'S MOVE QUICKLY TO THE AS.
>> MY A GOES TO DENY SELL WASHINGTON DENZEL WASHINGTON WHO PREACHED HIS FIRST SERMON AS A MINISTER.
WASHINGTON ALSO PLEDGED TO PROVIDE THE KWCG SCHOLARSHIP FUND PER YEAR FORREST OF HIS LIFE.
>> MY A GOES TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY FOR BANNING A DANGEROUS PESTICIDE KNOWN AS DCPA, A WEED KILLER.
AND WHEN PREGNANT FARM WORKERS ARE EXPOSED TO IT, IT CAN IMPAIR THEIR BABY'S BRAIN DEVELOPMENT, COGNITIVE FUNCTION AND MOTOR SKILLS.
>> ANIRBAN.
>> TO THE INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE LANDMARK RULING WHICH STRANGELY GOT COMPLETELY IGNORED BY THE U.S. MEDIA THAT ISRAEL'S OCCUPATION OF THE GAZA STRIP IN THE WEST BANK INCLUDING ISRAEL JERUSALEM IS UNLAWFUL ALONG WITH THE ASSOCIATED SETTLEMENT REGIME ANNEXATION OF THE USE OF NATURAL RESOURCES.
ISRAEL'S LEGISLATION AND MEASURES VIOLENT VIOLATE THE SEGREGATION AND MANDATE ISRAEL TO END ITS OCCUPATION, DISMANTLE SETTLEMENTS, PROVIDE FULL REPARATIONS TO PALESTINIAN VICTIMS AND RETURN THE DISPLACED PEOPLE AND ADDED SIGNATORY OF THE U.N. CHARTER HAVE AN OBLIGATION.
TIME TO CONVERT, YOU KNOW, ISRAEL TO A STATE LIKE JUST LIKE IN SOUTH AFRICA, THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY DID.
IT'S TIME TO STEP UP.
>> MY A GOES TO BRAD PAISLEY AND HIS WIFE FOR SETTING UP STORE.ORG THAT PROVIDES FOOD TO PEOPLE THAT CANNOT AFFORD IT WHERE THEY LIVE IN TENNESSEE.
IT'S LIKE MIDDLE TENNESSEE.
AND THEY ALSO PROVIDE TOYS DURING CHRISTMAS.
AND THEY WORK WITH PARTNERS LIKE BELMONT UNIVERSITY AND FAMILY WELL-BEING PROGRAM TO PROVIDE CASE MANAGEMENT, THINGS LIKE CASE MANAGEMENT, THINGS LIKE COUNSELING AND FINANCIAL HELP.
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