Ivory Tower
How did Trump win; Where do Dems go now; NY Dems
Season 21 Episode 18 | 26m 45sVideo has Closed Captions
How did Trump win; Where do Dems go now; NY Dems
The panelist discuss the election and start off with how exactly did Donald Trump win? Next they look at where the Democratic Party goes from here Finally, a look at why New York Democrats are so successful
Ivory Tower is a local public television program presented by WCNY
Ivory Tower
How did Trump win; Where do Dems go now; NY Dems
Season 21 Episode 18 | 26m 45sVideo has Closed Captions
The panelist discuss the election and start off with how exactly did Donald Trump win? Next they look at where the Democratic Party goes from here Finally, a look at why New York Democrats are so successful
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> GOOD EVENING.
WELCOME TO IVORY TOWER.
I'M DAVID CHANATRY, FROM UTICA UNIVERSITY.
I'M JOINED AROUND THE TABLE TONIGHT BY TARA ROSS FROM ONONDAGA COMMUNITY COLLEGE, JENNIFER STROMER-GALLEY FROM SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY, AND ANIRBAN ACHARYA FROM LEMOYNE COLLEGE.
AND BEN BAUGHMAN FROM GANNON UNIVERSITY.
WE'RE NOW A FEW DAYS REMOVED FROM A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN UNTHINKABLE FOUR YEARS AGO.
IT'S HARD TO GRASP TODAY JUST HOW OVERWHELMING A VICTORY DONALD TRUMP WON ON TUESDAY.
HE NOT ONLY RAN THE TABLE ON THE BATTLEGROUND STATES, HE DID MUCH BETTER THAN BEFORE EVEN IN THE BLUE STATES HE LOST.
SO ANIRBAN, WE'LL START WITH YOU.
HOW DID HE DO IT?
>> WELL, I WENT TO THE A.P.
EXIT POLLS FOR WHAT THAT IS WORTH AND LOOKED AT SOME OF THE DATA AND LET ME PUT THIS DATA OUT QUICKLY AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS.
IF YOU LOOK AT RACE, MAJORITY OF WHITE PEOPLE VOTED FOR TRUMP.
WHITE MEN AND WOMEN.
AND SO IT WAS ABOUT 75% OF THE ELECTORATE, WHEREAS 10% OF THE ELECTORATE WERE BLACK AND 10% LATINO AND 5% OTHER.
AND THEY'RE ALSO BLACKS AND LATINOS VOTED FOR HARRIS BUT HARRIS LOST PERCENTAGE POINTS WITHIN THOSE GROUPS.
SUBURBAN VOTERS ALSO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, HARRIS LOST POINTS, ALTHOUGH THEY KIND OF VOTED FOR TRUMP BEFORE AND NOW, BUT MEN AND WOMEN.
BUT YOU KNOW, HARRIS LOST SOME OF THE PERCENTAGE POINTS THERE.
AND, YOU KNOW, LET'S BE VERY CLEAR.
I SAW THIS IN 2000 IN INDIA, RIGHT.
THE IDEA OF THE HINDU SUPREMACY, MUSLIMS ARE TERRIBLE, HINDUS FOR HINDUS AND MANY LIBERALS AND RIGHT WING PEOPLE LOVED THAT IDEA AND WE SAW HERE WHAT TRUMP DID.
HIS MESSAGING WAS EXTREME XENOPHOBIA, MASS DEPORTATION AND THAT MIGHT ARE RANG TRUE WITH A LOT OF WHITE VOTERS AND THIS HAS BEEN A VERY LONG TREND IN U.S. HISTORY.
>> WHEN PEOPLE, PRIOR TO THE ELECTION AND EVEN I THINK IN EXIT POLLS SAYS THAT THE ECONOMY WAS WHAT THEY WERE VOTING ON AND I WONDER HAS HE CREATED A NEW REPUBLICAN COALITION?
IT'S NOW VERY MUCH A WORKING CLASS PARTY, WHICH, YOU KNOW, ALMOST SEEMS STRANGE TO SAY BECAUSE 30 YEARS AGO I CERTAINLY ... >> IT'S NOT A WORKING CLASS PARTY DEFECTION FROM CERTAIN RACIAL GROUPS.
OVERWHELMINGLY THE ONLY RACIAL GROUP THAT VOTED OVERWHELMINGLY FOR TRUMP ARE WHAT PEOPLE AND THEY'RE 75% OF THE ELECTORATE.
WE CANNOT WALK AWAY FROM THAT AT ALL.
>> THE MORE PREDICTIVE THING A FEW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR COMES DOWN TO YOUR ECONOMIC STATUS AND YOUR EDUCATIONAL LEVEL.
PEOPLE LIE.
AND WHEN YOU ARE VOTING ANONYMOUSLY EVEN THOUGH WHATEVER YOU ARE REGISTERED, WHEN YOU COME OUT OF THE AREA AND YOU ARE TALKING IN A SURVEY, IT'S ASSUMING THAT YOU ARE TELLING THE TRUTH.
IT'S ACUM SOOG IT'S REPRESENTATIVE.
-- IT'S ASSUMING IT'S REPRESENTATIVE.
THAT'S WHAT WE ARE BASING THIS ON.
THERE IS STUFF THIS ELECTION WAS ABOUT THAT IS NOT SAID OUT LOUD THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO GO ON THE RECORD ABOUT.
>> THAT IS RIGHT.
MANY PEOPLE FOR EXAMPLE SAY THE ECONOMY IS THE REASON BUT THE REASONS ACTUALLY CULTURAL ISSUES >> IT'S NOT JUST ONE THING MOTIVATIONS ARE RUN BY A LOT OF THINGS.
>> YOU CAN SAY THAT THEY SAY IT'S NOT THE ECONOMY, BUT THE ECONOMY, I MEAN WE HAVE HAD, AS HAS BEEN POINTED OUT MANY TIMES ON THIS SHOW.
PRICES ARE 22% HIGHER THAN 4 YEARS AGO.
>> IT'S A CHALLENGE FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY BECAUSE THEY'RE THE PARTY IN POWER AND SO THEY LOOK TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE ECONOMIC CHALLENGES EVEN THOUGH IT IS A MUCH MORE COMPLEX ENVIRONMENT.
AND AS ALWAYS THE CASE, GENERALLY THE PARTY IN POWER DOESN'T ACTUALLY DICTATE THE ECONOMIC SITUATION.
SOME OF THE INFLATIONARY PRESSURES ARE NOT-- REALLY MOST OF THE INFLATIONARY PRESSURES ARE BECOME THE COVID AND THE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES.
BUT NEVERTHELESS, THE VOTERS BLAME THE CURRENT INCUMBENTS FOR THAT.
AND IT'S A LARGER WAVE WE ARE SEEING GLOBALLY IN SHIFTS, REGARDLESS HOT PARTY IS IN POWER, TO A NEW CHANGE BECAUSE THEY'RE UNSATISFIED WITH THE CURRENT STATE OF THINGS.
>> I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT ABSOLUTELY.
THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK IS PART OF THIS, TOO, IS THE FACT THAT-- AND THIS IS WHERE YOU DO HAVE TO SORT OF LOOK AT HOW THE DEMOCRATS RAN BOTH PARTS OF THE CAMPAIGN.
THE DEMOCRATS WERE NEVER ABLE TO ANSWER WHAT, FOR THE REPUBLICANS WAS A SIMPLE QUESTION.
ARE YOU BETTER OFF NOW THAN YOU WERE FOUR YEARS AGO.
AND I'LL TAKE ONE EXAMPLE.
YOU LOOK AT STUDENT DEBT RELIEF.
HERE YOU HAVE PRESIDENT BIDEN INITIALLY AND OF COURSE KAMALA HARRIS AS HIS VICE PRESIDENT, DOING EVERYTHING HE COULD TO GET STUDENT DEBT RELIEF AND GETTING SOME OF IT BUT THE PARTY DIDN'T GET ANY CREDIT FOR IT.
SOME MIGHT ARGUE BECAUSE IT WAS A CLASS ISSUE AND THEY SEE THAT AS ONLY BENEFITING THOSE WHO ARE COLLEGE EDUCATED.
BUT OTHERS MIGHT ARGUE THAT'S BECAUSE YOU ALSO DON'T REALIZE SORT OF THE DIFFERENCES IN PEOPLE WHO MIGHT HAVE, YOU KNOW, 40 TO $60,000 OF DEBT BECAUSE THEY WENT TO GRAD SCHOOL VERSUS THE YOUNG PERSON WHO IS TRYING TO LIVE OFF OF THEIR FINANCIAL AID.
THOSE ARE SORT OF TWO DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES HERE.
SO, YES IT WAS THE ECONOMY BUT THEN HAVE YOU TO BREAK DOWN WHAT IS THE ECONOMY FOR WHICH DEMOGRAPHIC GROUP.
>> I ALSO THINK THE ISRAEL-WILL PALESTINIAN ISSUE WAS VERY, VERY BIG IN MANY PLACES AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY DID NOT HAVE ANY CLEAR ANSWER.
THEY DIDN'T EVEN WELCOME A PALESTINIAN SPEAKER IN THEIR OWN CONVENTION AND NOW THEY'RE WONDERING WHY THE ARABS DIDN'T VOTE FOR THEM.
THEY TOLD US THAT THEY WOULD NOT VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRATS AND THEY DIDN'T AND THEY SHOULDN'T EITHER, I THINK.
>> THAT GETS TO THE POINT ABOUT THE YOUTH VOTE, WHICH ALL THE PUSH THAT THE YOUNG PEOPLE WOULD VOTE FOR KAMALA HARRIS AND WHILE THEY DID, JENNY, THEY DIDN'T VOTE FOR HER IN HUGE NUMBERS, RIGHT?
>> THEY DIDN'T.
SO YOUNGER VOTERS ACTUALLY SHIFTED MORE TOWARDS TRUMP THAN I THINK WAS EXPECTED.
THERE IS AN INTERESTING DATA POINT THAT IS INTERESTING AND I'LL ACKNOWLEDGE BEN'S CONCERNS ABOUT EXIT POLLS BECAUSE ALL OF WHAT WE ARE REFLECTING ON NOW IS BASED ON EXIT POLLS WHICH HAVE UNEVENNESS IN TERMS OF HOW INSIGHTFUL THEY REALLY ARE.
NEVERTHELESS, OLDER PEOPLE, SO BASICALLY THE BOOMERS WHICH HISTORICALLY, THE LAST COUPLE OF ELECTIONS, HAVE BEEN VERY POSITIVE ON TRUMP.
ACTUALLY WE SAW A BLUE SHIFT IN THE OLDEST DEMOGRAPHIC.
AND THAT IS INTERESTING.
>> WE HAVE TO ASK, TOO, THE PRESIDENT-ELECT HAS PRETTY MUCH SAID-- HE HAS MADE IT CLEAR WHO HE IS, RIGHT?
AND PEOPLE HAVE VOTED FOR THAT.
SO WHAT-- IS THAT-- DO WE WANT, AS A NATION, A MORE, A BIG INCREASE IN EXECUTIVE POWER?
THIS IS A HUGE EXPANSION OF EXECUTIVE POWER.
>> I THINK HIM GOING ON JEFF ROGUE AN SPOKE TO YOUNGER PEOPLE AND KAMALA HARRIS WAS NOT WILLING TO GO ON SOME OF THESE YOUNGER PLATFORMS AND ANSWER HARD QUESTIONS FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
AND THAT CAME ACROSS AS AUTHENTIC.
NO MATTER WHAT WAS SAID AND WHETHER OR NOT HE IS TELLING THE TRUTH OR NOT, IT COMES ACROSS AS AUTHENTIC AND IT WAS GRABBING.
AND IT ALSO SPEAKS TO THE CANCEL CULL CULTURE THAT IS OUT AND I THINK THAT WORKED AGAINST THE DEMOCRATS AND THAT'S SOME SOUL SEARCHING AS WELL.
>> BUT I'M REALLY KIND OF WONDERING ABOUT THIS IDEA OF HAVING A PRESIDENT WITH THIS MUCH AUTHORITY.
>> I DON'T KNOW-- I'M NOT SURE THE PUBLIC WAS PAYING ATTENTION EXACTLY TO THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE.
SO I CARE A LOT ABOUT INSTITUTIONS, INSTITUTIONAL STRUCTURES.
BUT I THINK THAT MAKES ME KIND OF WEIRD BECAUSE I THINK MOST ORDINARY AMERICANS ARE GOING THROUGH THEIR DAY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT,000 PAY THEIR BILLS, TAKING CARE OF CHILD CARE, GETTING THEIR KIDS OFF TO COLLEGE.
THOSE BREAD AND BUTTER ISSUES ARE WHAT DRIVE THE WAYS VOTERS THINK, NOT WHAT IS HAPPENING TO OUR DEMOCRACY.
WHAT DOES IT MEAN IF YOU HAVE KIND OF AUTHORITARIAN LEADER WHO NOW HAS THE SENATE AND PROBABLY THE HOUSE AS WELL AS CONSERVATIVE SUPREME COURT BEHIND HIM.
>> THAT GETS TO A POINT YOU MADE EARLIER IN THE GREEN ROOM ABOUT CAMPAIGNS DON'T MATTER SO MUCH AS THESE THINGS, PERCEPTION OF ECONOMY, THE MOOD OF THE COUNTRY.
IF THE 2010 MIDTERMS WERE A "SHELLACKING," FOR DEMOCRATS, AS BARACK OBAMA CALLED IT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT DO YOU CALL THIS.
THE PARTY APPARENTLY LOST SOME OF ITS TRADITIONAL COALITION.
ITS MESSAGING SEEMS TOO PROGRESSIVE TO REACH A MAJORITY OF VOTERS.
IT'S NOW PERCEIVED AS THE PARTY OF THE ELITES EVEN THOUGH THE POLICIES WERE MORE FAVORABLE TO LABOR THAN THE G.O.P.ES.
WHERE DO THE DEMOCRATS GO FROM HERE?
>> WELL, THE NATION IS REALLY DIVIDED, RIGHT?
WHILE ANIRBAN IS RIGHT THAT WE SEE A MAJORITY OF WHITE VOTERS VOTED FOR TRUMP, WHEN YOU LOOK ACROSS THE DEMOGRAPHICS, THAT SPLIT IS STILL REALLY NARROW AND BECAUSE OF THAT, I THINK WE COLLECTIVELY SHOULD NOT OR LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY.
I THINK THE DEMOCRATS MAY BE ENGAGING A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH HAND WRINGING ABOUT THE NATURE OF THEIR LOSSES.
THE ARGUMENTS THAT HARRIS MADE WERE NOT PARTICULARLY EFFECTIVE AROUND TRUMP AS A FASCIST.
I DON'T, AGAIN, THOSE ARE ISSUES ARE NOT WHAT ORDINARY AMERICANS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT.
THERE WAS A SERIES OF FOCUS GROUPS AT SYRACUSE ONE DECIDED VOTERS AROUND THE COUNTRY WITH NBC AND WHAT WAS REALLY NOTEWORTHY IS THAT WOMEN IN THOSE FOCUS GROUPS WOULD SAY I REALLY CARE ABOUT ABORTION RIGHTS.
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO THIS SORTED OF HEALTHCARE; HOWEVER, AT THE END OF THE DAY, I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR THE ECONOMY AND I THINK TRUMP IS THE BETTER CANDIDATE.
AND SO THAT MESSAGE, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE-- AND THIS IS SOMETHING I HAVE BEEN CRITICAL ABOUT OF HARRIS SINCE THE BEGINNING.
SHE DIDN'T HAVE A CLEAR ECONOMIC MESSAGE.
AND THE SORTS OF PROPOSALS THAT SHE HAD WERE MICROSHIFTS IN CERTAIN PEOPLE'S POCKETBOOKS.
BUT NOT ADDRESSING THE FUNDAMENTAL ECONOMIC INEQUALITIES WE FACE IN THE COUNTRY.
>> SO BERNIE SANDERS SAID THIS RESULT IS NO SURPRISE.
DEMOCRATS HAVE ABANDONED BLUE COLLAR WORKERS AND NOT JUST WHITE BLUE COLLAR WORKERS.
>> THE DEMOCRATS NEED TO BECOME A PARTY OF LABOR.
IDENTITY POLITICS IS IMPORTANT AND THERE IS A PROGRESSIVE PART OF IT.
BUT THERE IS ALSO A REGRESSIVE PART OF IT THAT TURNS A LOT OF IT OFF.
I CANNOT REALLY HONESTLY CLAIM THAT AS A PROFESSOR IN LeMOYNE JUST BECAUSE I AM BROWN, I'M BEING OPPRESS BY A LOT OF PEOPLE.
THAT WOULD NOT RING TRUE.
WHAT DEMOCRATS SHOULD HAVE MESSAGED ABOUT, CORPORATE AGREED.
PEOPLE UNABLE TO PAY THEIR MASSIVE HOMELESSNESS, MASSIVE INEQUALITY.
ALL THE STUFF THAT BERNIE SANDERS SAID.
AND GUESS WHAT?
IF YOU NOTE ONE THING, I HAVE SEEN ACROSS ALL MAGA VOTERS, THEY DO NOT VILIFY BERNIE SANDERS.
TRUMP NEVER WENT AND ATTACKED BERNIE SANDERS EVER IN FACT.
CALLED HIM UNCLE BERNIE, A SWEETNESS TO THAT STUFF.
YES, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE.
DEMOCRATS ABANDONED LABOR AND NOW LABOR IS ABANDONING THEM.
SHE LOST VOTES AMONG BLACKS AND LATINOS.
ON THE WHOLE, IF DEMOCRATS GO DOWN THAT LINE, THEY WOULD LOSE VOTES.
AND THEY'RE HANGING OUT WITH LIZ CHENEY, HANGING OUT WITH WAR CRIMINALS LIKE DICK CHENEY.
THAT THEY DIDN'T SIT WELL WITH PEOPLE.
>> DO THEY NEED TO BACK OFF THE PROGRESSIVE CULTURAL ISSUES?
>> ABSOLUTELY I THINK THEY DO.
AND PART OF THE REASON THEY NEED TO BACK OFF IS BECAUSE THEY'RE OR DEALING WITH, AND THIS PULLS IN THE YOUNG PEOPLE, THEY'RE OR DEALING WITH GENERATIONS THAT DON'T HAVE A LIVED MEMORY OF EXCESSIVE RACISM, EXCESSIVE SEXISM.
THESE ARE FOLKS WHO DO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING AND LIVED MEMORY OF ECONOMIC INEQUALITY.
SO FOR BASICALLY THIS GENERATION AND REALLY THE ONE BEFORE IT, THOSE ISSUES ARE NO LONGER THEIR BREAD AND BUTTER ISSUES.
THE ECONOMY IS.
>> YOU MENTION THAT.
I DON'T THINK I HEARD THAT PHRASE ECONOMIC INEQUALITY DURING THE CAMPAIGN.
>> AND THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
THE ECONOMY, IF PEOPLE LOOK BACK, THEY REMEMBER THE ECONOMY DOING REALLY WELL UNDER TRUMP.
AND WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT, WE KNEW WHO TRUMP WAS GOING INTO IT.
WE ONLY HAD A LITTLE OVER 100 DAYS TO LEARN WHO KAMALA HARRIS WAS.
SOMETIMES, AS PEOPLE SAY, THE DEVIL THAT YOU KNOW IS BETTER THAN THE ONE THAT YOU DON'T.
AND THAT ALSO, I THINK, PLAYED A PART.
>> YOU HAD MENTIONED IN THE LAST SEGMENT, PODCASTS.
I WONDER ABOUT THE MEDIA ROLE IN THIS ELECTION CAMPAIGN AND WHETHER DEMOCRATS NEEDED A NEW MEDIA STRATEGY BECAUSE PEOPLE AREN'T PICKING UP THE NEWSPAPER LIKE THEY USED TO.
>> IT'S SOMETHING I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT A LOT.
THE ROLE THAT THE DIGITAL MEDIA ENVIRONMENT CURRENTLY PLAYS.
OUR LOCAL AND REGIONAL NEWS ENVIRONMENT IS INCREDIBLY THIN AT THIS JUNCTURE, RIGHT?
SO WE DON'T GET MUCH LOCAL NEWS ANYMORE.
WHEN WE GO TO THE NEXT CONVERSATION WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THIS.
THERE IS THE POWER OF THE FRAGMENTS INFORMATION ENVIRONMENT FOR PEOPLE TO SNACK ON LITTLE BITE SIZED HEADLINES MEANS THAT THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE FULL PICTURE, THE DEEP INSIGHTS ABOUT WHAT IS DRIVING SOME OF THESE ECONOMIC ISSUES, SOME OF THE POLITICAL AND SOCIAL ISSUES THAT WE SEE.
AND IT LEAVES THEM, I THINK, VULNERABLE, TO GACHA POLITICS AND MISINFORMATION.
>> AFTER ELON MUSK CONTROLLED X, THE MISINFORMATION IN X, YOU KNOW, YOU WERE RIGHT.
IT TAKES AWAY FROM-- THE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT POLLING AND WHAT WE HAVE DONE SO FAR IN POLITICAL SCIENCE IS THE ASSUMPTION THAT THERE IS A RATIONAL PRAGMATIC PUBLIC THAT KNOWS THE INFORMATION.
THAT'S NOT HAPPENING.
>> DO THE DEMOCRATS NEED THEIR VERSION OF X AND THEIR VERSION OF JOE ROGUE AN AND SOME OF THESE OTHER PODCASTS?
>> THEY HAVE IT.
IT'S CALLED CNN.
>> BUT CNN IS A CABLE CHANNEL AND PEOPLE ARE NOT REALLY TUNING INTO TELEVISION ANYMORE.
>> YOU HAVE SOME OF THESE THINGS BUT THE LARGER ISSUE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IS THERE IS SO LITTLE PLATFORM REGULATION HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
SO THE TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES ARE FUNDAMENTALLY UNREGULATED.
WE SAW LESS REGULATION BY THEM IN TERMS OF MUS INFORMATION, DISPOSITION, AND THAT LEAVES THE PUBLIC VULNERABLE TO BAD INFORMATION.
>> ONE PLACE THE DEMOCRATS DID OKAY WAS HERE IN NEW YORK.
THEY FLIPPED 3 HOUSE SEATS INCLUDING OURS HERE IN CENTRAL NEW YORK, PASSED THE STATE EQUAL RIGHTS AMENDMENT, PICKED UP A SEAT IN THE ASSEMBLY AND STILL HAVE A MAJORITY IN THE STATE SENATE.
OUR LOCAL SENATE DISTRICT IS TOO CLOSE TO CALL AND HEADING FOR A RECOUNT.
TARA, WHAT'S WORKING FOR DEMOCRATS HERE?
>> THEY FOCUSED SO LOCAL ISSUES, ECONOMIC ISSUES.
MANNION, FOR EXAMPLE, HE BENEFITED FROM INITIALLY FROM THE REDISTRICTING WHICH REMOVED A LOT OF CONSERVATIVES.
>> THAT ALWAYS HELPS, RIGHT?
>> MOVED THE MOST CONSERVATIVE PART OF THE DISTRICT SO HE BENEFITED FROM THAT AND BENEFITED FROM THE FACT THAT YES, HE MENTIONED REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS BUT HE ALSO ALMOST IN EVERYTHING YOU READ AND SAW IT'S REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS AND, BY THE WAY, I HELPED GET MICRON.
I HELPED GET AMAZON HERE.
SO IT WAS A TWO FOLD ARGUMENT.
ECONOMICS AND REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS.
AND HOW CAN WE IMPROVE CENTRAL NEW YORK.
HE ALSO BENEFITED FROM SOME OF THE PLACES WHERE HE WENT TO SPEAK TO THE PUBLIC AS WELL.
>> AND PROPOSITION 1 PASSED.
AND BY A PRETTY HEALTHY MARGIN, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS SURPRISING ESPECIALLY SINCE THE EMPHASIS ON GIRLS SPORTS AND TRANSGENDER ISSUES.
>> I ALSO WAS SURPRISED ALTHOUGH NOT THAT MUCH.
I WAS MORE SURPRISED IT PASSED IN MANY OTHER STATES IN FACT WITH VERY LARGE MARGINS.
FLORIDA SHOWING 57% ALMOST NEAR THE SUPER MAJORITY THAT THEY WANTED.
YOU KNOW, CONFOUNDING THINGS, RIGHT?
EVERYBODY SAID NY-22 WOULD BE A VERY CLOSE RACE BETWEEN MANNION AND WILLIAMS.
IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
MANNION WON BY A VERY LARGE AMOUNT, RIGHT?
MOLINARO AND RILEY RACE WHICH WAS THE COSTLIEST, RILEY WINS BY A HAIR LENGTH MARGIN THERE.
SO AGAIN, NEW YORK 4 WHICH I THINK IS DOWNSTATE, JILLIAN BY 1%.
DEMOCRATS DID VERY WELL WITH DOUBLE DIGIT MARGINS SO I THINK NEW YORK HOLDS THE LINE, I DON'T KNOW, FOR THE DEMOCRATS AT LEAST.
>> WHAT ABOUT IN TERMS OF STATE GOVERNMENT?
WE HAVE A DEMOCRAT-- IT'S NOT A SUPER MAJORITY BUT THEY DON'T NEED ONE BECAUSE IT'S A DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR.
>> TRIFECTA.
>> WHAT DO WE EXPECT LOCALLY?
>> YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I'M WONDERING ABOUT IS WILL THERE BE SORT OF, I DON'T WANT TO SAY BACKTRACKING.
THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT WORD, BUT WILL WE BE SORT OF AS PROGRESSIVE IN SOME OF THE LEGISLATION THAT HAS BEEN PASSED UP TO THIS POINT, KNOWING THAT YOU HAD A DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT, YOU HAD THAT SLIM MAJORITY IN THE SENATE.
WILL THE GOVERNOR, FOR EXAMPLE, BE QUITE AS STRONG ON SOME OF THE MORE PROGRESSIVE ISSUES THAN SHE HAS IN THE PAST?
>> THE ELECTORATE SEEMS TO HAVE SENT A MESSAGE THAT MAYBE SHE SHOULDN'T BE.
>> I WILL ALSO SAY THAT PROPOSITION 1 ON THE BALLOT DID NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT TRANSGENDER, WHICH ENDED UP BEING ONE OF THE MORE EFFECTIVE ADS FOR THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN.
ABOUT KAMALA BEING FOR THEY ALREADY THEM AND TRUMP BEING FOR YOU.
AND I THINK IF YOU DIDN'T LOOK IT UP, YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS PART OF THE WORDING.
>> THAT AD WAS VERY EFFECTIVE AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WATCH THE WORLD SERIES, IT WAS ON EVERY INNING, BETWEEN EVERY INNING THAT AD WAS ON.
WHAT ABOUT-- ACTUALLY NO, I WANTED TO GET BACK TO LOCAL NEWS BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED LOCAL NEWS, JENNY.
SO WHAT IS THE IMPACT THERE?
>> I GUESS ONE OF THE THINGS I'M CONCERNED ABOUT AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, I THINK WE ARE GOING TO SEE MORE POWER PLACED BACK ON THE STATES.
AND GIVEN THAT THEN THE PUBLIC NEEDS STRONGER LOCAL AND STATE LEVEL NEWS COVERAGE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THEIR STATE LEGISLATURES.
AND WHEN I LIVED IN ALBANY, I WAS AT SUNY ALBANY-FOR-A DECADE AND BECAUSE I WAS IN ALBANY, I HAD A MUCH CLEARER SENSE OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH THE LEGISLATURE SINCE.
SINCE I HAVE NOW BEEN IN SYRACUSE, IT IS MUCH HARDER TO KNOW WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING IN THE HALLS IN ALBANY.
AND THAT WORRIES ME BECAUSE THAT'S NOT UNIQUE TO US.
THAT'S ACROSS THE NATION, YOU KNOW, GANNETT AND OTHER NEWS OUTLETS PURCHASED BY VENTURE CAPITALIST FIRMS AND BASICALLY GUTTED.
SO WE REALLY NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT HOW WE BOLSTER STATE LEVEL AND LOCAL NEWS SO THE PUBLIC REALLY UNDERSTANDS, WHAT IS BEING PASSED AND BY HALF OF THE PEOPLE.
>> IT'S NOT JUST HAVING A LOCAL NEWSPAPER CORRESPONDENT IN ALBANY IF NOBODY IS PICKING UP THE NEWSPAPER ANYMORE.
>> 100%.
THERE IS AN INCENTIVE STRUCTURE TO GET PEOPLE TO PAY MORE ATTENTION TO LOCAL NEWS AND THAT'S A CHALLENGE, TOO.
>> WE GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE ALBANY "TIMES UNION" WHICH IS A GOOD NEWSPAPER.
I SUBSCRIBE.
>> GOOD NEWSPAPER.
>> WE DO NEED TO GO TO AS AND FS.
TARA ARE YOUR F. >> MY F GOES TO THOSE WHO CONTINUE TO PROMOTE THE LEGALIZATION AND PROLIFERATION OF THE CANNABIS MARKET.
CANNABIS HAS THERAPEUTIC BENEFITS, THE IMPACT OF THE MARKET GROWTH IS VERY PROFOUND.
THIS IS A $33 BILLION ANNUALLY INDUSTRY.
CURRENTLY 18 MILLION CHRONIC USERS OF CANNABIS.
ON AVERAGE TODAY'S CANNABIS CONTAINS AT LEAST 15% THC AND SOME CONTAIN AS MUCH AS 40% THC AND THAT MAKES IT ADDICTIVE.
TEEN CANNABIS USE HAS RISEN DRAMATICALLY AND IT IS CLEAR THE MORE TEENS USE CANNABIS, THE MORE LIKELY THEY ARE TO DEVELOP PSYCHIATRIC DISORDERS SO THERE IS A REAL PROBLEM HERE AND WE NEED TO START ADDRESSING IT.
>> JENNY.
>> SO MY F GOES TO THE LATEST CONSPIRACY THEORY.
SOME MIGHT REMEMBER HIM AS THE RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY THEORIST WHO PRODUCED 2,000 MULES, A FAIRY TAIL OF VOTER FRAUD IN 2020 PUSHING THE ARGUMENT THAT THE LOWER VOTER TURNOUT RATES BY DEMOCRATS ON TUESDAY IS NEW EVIDENCE OF VOTER FRAUD IN 2020.
WHEN DO WE RECOGNIZE THAT OUR ELECTIONS ARE THE ENVY OF CITIZENS AROUND THE GLOBE AND FINALLY PUT TO REST THE FANTASY OF A FANATICAL FEW.
>> I AGREE WITH YOU THERE.
MY F GOES TO THE EXTENT OF MONEY IN OUR ELECTION SYSTEMS.
WITH A 16 BILLION STICKER PRICE, THE TREND IS TOWARD MORE AND MORE DARK MONEY COMING FROM VERY WEALTHY DONORS ON BOTH PARTIES, DARK MONEY GROUPS FROM BOTH PARTIES DO NOT DISCLOSE THEIR DONORS NAMES AND FUNNELLY SUPER PACS.
DEMOCRACY INDEED IS DYING IN DARKNESS QUITE LITERALLY.
>> MY F GOES TO THE NEW YORK DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION WHO RAIDED MARK LONGO'S HOUSE OCTOBER 30.
TOOK A PET OF HIS FOR SEVEN YEARS.
IT WAS HIS PET.
CALLED PEANUT AND EUTHANIZED PEANUT WITHOUT ANY NOTICE OR GIVING HIM REASON, HE FOUND OUT FROM ANOTHER NEWS AGENCY.
LONGO HAS RESCUED A LOT OF ANIMALS AND HAS SINCE OPENED UP A RESCUE FARM THAT HE CALLS IT SINCE APRIL OF LAST YEAR AND PEANUT WAS A STAR ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
BUT THIS SPEAKS TO A BIGGER ISSUE OF NOT HAVING THINGS IN PLACE FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE PETS THAT MAY NEED TO DO SOME CERTAIN LICENSE FOR THAT, RATHER THAN TAKING THEM AND KILLING THEM.
>> As.
TARA.
>> MY A GOES TO THE JAPANESE ATOMIC SURVIVOR COLLECTIVE WHICH RECENTLY WON THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE.
THIS ORGANIZATION MADE UP OF THE FEW REMAINING SURVIVORS OF THE ADOMIC BOMB AS WELL AS THEIR DESCENDANTS COUNTS TO REMIND A VERY FORGETFUL WORLD ABOUT THE VERY REAL DANGER OF NUCLEAR PROLIFERATION AND DEBT NATION.
>> JENNY.
>> MY A GOES TO VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY FOR DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR THE DEMOCRACY.
SHE CONCEDED THE ELECTION RESULTS.
MY THANKS TO THE POLL WORKERS FOR DOING THE WORK OF DEMOCRACY.
>> BERNIE SANDERS TO THE DEMOCRATS HE SAYS IT SHOULD COME TO NO SURPRISE THAT A DEMOCRATIC PARTY WHICH IS ABAN BONED ABANDONED WORKING CLASS PEOPLE HAVE FOUND THE WORKING CLASS PEOPLE HAVE ABANDONED THEM DESPITE THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS WE CONTINUE TO SPEND BILLIONS OF FUNDING IN EXTREMIST NETANYAHU GOVERNMENT.
A GOOD LETTER TO READ FOR THE DEMOCRATS.
GOOD SOUL SEARCHING THERE.
>> MY A GOES TO A PODCAST CALLED LEFT, RIGHT AND CENTER.
IT ENABLES WHEW AND HOW THIS SHOW APPROACHES DISCOURSE IN A RESPECTFUL, DIVERSE AND INFORMED WAY.
>> YOU ARE GIVING US AN A THERE.
>> ALSO TALKING ABOUT-- A PLUS.
YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT PODCASTS AGAIN SO THERE YOU GO.
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