>> CBS SETTLES WITH THE PRESIDENT OVER A "60 MINUTES" INTERVIEW.

IS TRUMP WINNING HIS BATTLE WITH THE MEDIA?

MAKING AMERICA HEALTHY•RFK'S PLAN TO FIGHT CHRONIC DISEASE IS SPREADING IN THE STATES.

AND CAN A 33-YEAR-OLD DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST BE THE NEW FACE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY?

STAY TUNED, IVORY TOWER IS NEXT.

♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> GOOD EVENING.

WELCOME TO IVORY TOWER.

I'M DAVID CHANATRY, FROM UTICA UNIVERSITY.

I'M JOINED AROUND THE TABLE TONIGHT BY LUKE PERRY FROM UTICA UNIVERSITY, JENNIFER STROMER-GALLEY FROM SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY, ANIRBAN ACHARYA FROM LEMOYNE COLLEGE, AND RICK FENNER FROM UTICA UNIVERSITY.

THE PARENT COMPANY OF CBS NEWS HAS SETTLED A 16 MILLION DOLLAR THE MEDIA INDUSTRY IS A BUSINESS INDUSTRY.

AS A BUSINESS INDUSTRY, IT HAS TO WORK WELL WITH GOVERNMENT TO ENABLE ITS COMMERCIAL INTERESTS.

AND IN THIS CASE WITH PARAMOUNT, THEY NEEDED THE FEDERAL COMMUNICATION COMMISSION TO APPROVE A MERGER WITH A COMPANY CALLED SKYDANCE AND IN ORDER TO SORT OF GET THIS QUID PRO QUO, THEY NEEDED TO PLAY WITH TRUMP WHO SUED THE PARAMOUNT, WHICH OWNS "60 MINUTES" WHICH OVERSEES CBS, THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.

SO CBS OWNS "60 MINUTES," "60 MINUTES HAD AN INTERVIEW WITH KAMALA HARRIS AND IT HAD A BURCH OF EDITING WHICH IS PART OF THE NORMAL NEWS OUTLET.

WHEN YOU SAY A-- >> WHEN YOU SAY A BUNCH OF EDITING.

THERE WAS A SINGLE ANSWER TO A QUESTION AND THE FIRST PART OF THE ANSWER WAS USED IN ONE PROGRAM AND THE SECOND PART WAS USED ON ANOTHER.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

THAT'S PART OF THE BUSINESS OF PRODUCING LONG FORM JOURNALISM CONTENT.

YOU EDIT IT FOR CONTENT, FOR TIME.

BUT I THINK FROM TRUMP'S PERSPECTIVE, HE SEES THE THE CASES.

HE IS USING THE FULL WEIGHT OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO ADVANTAGE HIM PERSONALLY, RIGHT.

THE FCC IS INVOLVED IN THE MERGER JENNY WAS MENTIONING AND PUT PRESSURE ON PARAMOUNT AND SAID WITH THIS LAWSUIT OUT THERE, IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD FOR YOU.

THIS MAKES ME NERVOUS AS SOMEONE WHO CARES DEEPLY ABOUT DEMOCRACY WHILE ALSO UNDERSTANDING AS POINTED OUT THE PRACTICAL BUSINESS CONCERNS INVOLVED HERE.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> YOU KNOW, IF YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT, I MEAN I DON'T PARTICULARLY BLAME TRUMP FOR WHAT HE IS DOING.

THIS IS WHAT TRUMP DOES.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE TWO DIFFERENT, ONE IS "FACE THE NATION "AND THE OTHER IS "60 MINUTES."

THE EDITING IS QUITE CLEAR.

IT MAKES KAMALA HARRIS LOOK GOOD.

THE ANSWER SHE GAVE IN THE LONG FORM IS A TERRIBLE ANSWER.

JUST TERRIBLE.

AND THEN IT WAS EDITED TO MAKE HER LOOK GOOD, YES.

NOW TRUMP DID WHAT HE COULD.

HE SUED FOR THAT.

NOW I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU THAT WHY, AS A BIG MEDIA COMPANY, YOU SHOULD TAKE UP THAT LAWSUIT AND IF YOU WANT TO LOSE, LOSE IT IN COURT, RIGHT?

I DON'T THINK TRUMP WOULD HAVE WON THE LAWSUIT, BUT THE IDEA IT'S A PROFIT-MAKING BUSINESS, LOOKING AT ITS BOTTOM LINE.

DOESN'T WANT THE MERGER DEAL TO FALL THROUGH.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO FALL IN LINE FOR THAT.

>> YOU SURPRISE ME BY SOMETHING BECAUSE YOU SAID THEY EDIT IT TO MAKE HER LOOK GOOD, LIKE THAT WAS THE INTENTION.

>> IF YOU LOOK AT THESE TWO THINGS.

THE SECOND PART, THE ANSWER LOOKS A LITTLE BIT MORE CRISP, IF NOT LACONIC BUT CRISP AND DIRECT.

THE OTHER ONE IS A COMPLETE RAMBLING MESS.

>> AND THEN WE GO THROUGH AND EVERY DEMOCRAT THAT IS INTERVIEWED ON FOX IS GOING TO SUE THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE SHOWN TO BE LESS THAN FAVORABLE?

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS-- I UNDERSTAND THE PARAMOUNT ISSUE BECAUSE OF THE DIRECT LINK TO WANTING THE MERGER WITH SKYDANCE BUT SOME OF THE OTHER MEDIA COMPANIES, I DIDN'T.

LIKE THE ABC, YOU KNOW, MOST EXPERTS HAVE SAID MOST OF THESE CASES WERE FRIVOLOUS AND DIDN'T STAND MUCH OF A CHANCE OF PASSING.

BUT THEY ALSO CAVED.

AND SO THE LANDSCAPE IN MEDIA SEEMS TO BE THE SAME AS THE LANDSCAPE IN LARGE LAW FIRMS AND INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER LEARNING.

WE ARE ALL BEING BULLIED BY DONALD TRUMP AND WE ARE CAVING AND MEETING HIS DEMANDS.

I IMAGINE THERE WOULD BE A SILENCING OR.

>> ON THE DAY OF THE POLL WHEN IT CAME OUT, HE SAID IN I DON'T KNOW WHY IT IS NOT ILLEGAL WHICH IS A STRANGE PLACE TO BE WHEN YOU ARE ATTACKING POLLSTERS FOR BRINGING OUT LONG STANDING POLLS.

>> IS HE OBJECTING TO WHAT WE MIGHT JUST CALL NORMAL JOURNALIST PRACTICES?

>> IN SOME WAYS, YES, IN TERMS OF POLLING, POLLING IS UNDERSTANDING VOTER ATTITUDES IN A CERTAIN MOMENT, RIGHT?

AND HOW THAT ACTUALLY MATERIALIZES IS AN IMPERFECT SCIENCE.

THAT'S THE NATURE OF PREDICTIONS.

SO THAT ALSO SEEMS VERY SILL TOE ME.

I UNDERSTAND WHY HE IS DOING THAT N. ADDITION TO TRUMP, I WANT TO PULL BACK A SECOND.

ANOTHER FACTOR TO CONSIDER IS HOW AMERICA'S LITIGIOUS SOCIETY, NOT JUST BUSINESSES THAT HAVE TO DEAL WITH FRIVOLOUS LAWSUITS.

WHEN I SERVED IN GOVERNMENT, WE HAD PEOPLE SUING THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND WE KNEW IT WAS NONSENSE BUT WE HAD TO MAKE A DECISION OF WORTH SPENDING HYPOTHETICALLY 50 MILLION TO FIGHT OVER FIVE YEARS OR SETTLE FOR $100,000.

SOMETIMES YOU SETTLE EVEN IF IT IS A FRIVOLOUS LAWSUIT BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU CAN SPEND THE MONEY, IN THIS CASE, IN TERMS OF THE PUBLIC SECTOR AS WELL >> WHILE ROBERT KENNEDY, JR MAY BE BEST KNOWN FOR HIS ANTI-VACCINE BELIEFS, HE HAS BEEN SURPRISINGLY EFFECTIVE PURSUING THE OTHER PART OF HIS MAKE AMERICA HEALTHY PLATFORM.

SEVERAL STATES HAVE ADOPTED PARTS OF HIS AGENDA DESIGNED TO BATTLE OBESITY AND CHRONIC DISEASE.

STATES HAVE TAKEN STEPS TO BAN SCHOOLS FROM SERVING ULTRA-PROCESSED FOODS AND TO PREVENT FOOD AID FROM BEING USED TO BUY SODA OR CANDY.

-- EXCUSE ME, TO PREVENT USING FOOD AID TO BY THINGS LIKE CANDY OR SODA.

SO, RICK, IS HE ON TO SOMETHING WITH HIS MAKING AMERICA HEALTHY AGENDA?

>> YES, SOME OF RFK'S AGENDA MAKES SENSE.

MOST KUNRYS HAVE MUCH STRICTER RULES ON THE USE OF THINGS LIKE FOOD DYE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO MAKE SCHOOL LUNCHES HEALTHIER MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

BUT TWO THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE.

FIRST, YOU KNOW, WHEN DEMOCRATS HAVE SUGGESTED THESE TYPES OF CHANGES, FOR INSTANCE, WHEN THE REAGAN ADD ADMINISTRATION TRIED TO CALL KETCHUP A VEGETABLE, THEY STEPPED IN AND SAID WE NEED TO IMPROVE THE NUTRITION OF SCHOOL WHRURCHES, OR WHEN THEY TALKED ABOUT A SODA TAX.

THEY WERE RID-- RIDICULED AS BEING PART OF THE NAN ESTATE.

IT'S IRONIC NOW RFK HAS BECOME THE NATION'S NANNY.

MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE REASONABLE PARTS OF RFK'S AGENDA REALLY ARE SMALL POTATOES COMPARED TO SAY HIS ATTACKS ON VACCINES.

YOU KNOW, WE JUST SAW A RECORD NUMBER OF CASES OF MEASLES BEING REPORTED AFTER HAVING ERADICATED IT.

REDUCING KIDS EXPOSURE TO FOOD DYE WHILE INCREASING THEIR EXPOSURE TO THINGS LIKE MEASLES DOESN'T SEEM LIKE AN APPROPRIATE TRADE-OFF.

WHEN AMERICANS ACCEPT THIS IDEA OF REGULATING WHAT THEY EAT?

>> I REALLY APPRECIATE RICK'S PERSPECTIVE THERE BECAUSE I HAVE THE SAME REACTIONS LIKE WOW.

SUDDENLY WE HAVE KIND OF A NAN ESTATE, WHICH GENERALLY SPEAKING, REPUBLICANS DON'T PUSH AS THEIR AGENDA THE SORT OF STRONG GOVERNMENT REGULATION INTO CORPORATE AND PRIVATE INTERESTS.

BUT I WILL SAY THAT THE AGENDA IS AN INTERESTING SET OF POLICIES THAT ARE QUITE POPULAR.

THE BANNING OF SYNTHETIC DYES FOR EXAMPLE, IN FOOD, 60% OF THE PUBLIC IS IN FAVOR OF THAT.

I PERSONALLY AM IN FAVOR OF THAT.

SO IT IS A WEIRD CONCOCTION, IF YOU WILL, OF POLICIES.

>> YOU KNOW, THE INTERESTING TO SEE THE SELF-CARE MOVEMENT, YOU KNOW, THE MOVEMENT FOR EATING HEALTHY AND ALL THAT STUFF, THAT HAS KIND OF DOVE TAILED TOWARDS RIGHT WING DISCOURSES AND ECHO CHAMBERS.

YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF THE HEALTHCARE SELF-HELP AND THAT KIND OF STUFF BECOMING A LITTLE BIT MORE MAGA OVER TIME.

I AGREE WITH BOTH OF MY COLLEAGUES HERE.

ONE THING TAKING AWAY FOOD DYE AND EVERYTHING, AND ULTRAPROCESSED FOODS.

THOSE ARE GOOD THINGS BUT THE VACCINE SCEPTICISM AND FIGHTING AGAINST VACCINES.

I HAVE A NICE TAG LINE.

LIVE FREE OF DYE AND THEN DIE EARLY.

THAT FEELS LIKE HIS DIRECTION IN WHICH WE ARE GOING.

BUT I DON'T KNOW.

>> I'M GLAD YOU ARE NOT IN MARKETING.

>> I KNOW.

>> I THINK AMERICANS PER OUR CULTURE ARE EXCEPTIONALLISTS AND WE THINK WE ARE THE BEST AT EVERYTHING AND WE ARE NOT WHEN IT COMES TO NUTRITION.

WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT AND NUTRITION, I THINK AT LOT OF AMERICANS THINK THE GOVERNMENT IS GENERALLY KEEPING US SAFE IN TERMS OF OUR FOOD.

THEY'RE NOT.

RIGHT NOW FOOD COMPANIES CAN PUT ANY CHEMICAL THEY WANT INTO FOOD AND SELF-AFFIRM THAT IT'S GENERALLY RECOGNIZED AS SAFE.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO REFER IT TO THE FDA AND THE FDA LOOKS THROUGH SOME OF THESE BUT NOT THE THOUSANDS OF CHEMICALS THAT GET PUT IN OUR FOOD.

SO I THINK THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT MISUNDERSTANDING IN TERMS OF HOW THE SYSTEM WORK AND THINK KENNEDY IS DOING SOME OF THE NERDY WORK TO TRY TO FIX THAT.

BUT ON THE FLIP SIDE AS REFERENCED, IF YOU ARE CUTTING FARM-TO-SCHOOL PROGRAMS THAT HELP FARMERS AND HELP KIDS AT THE SAME TIME, YOU ARE NOT MAKING US ANY HEALTHIER.

>> WHAT ABOUT ONE THING HE HAS BEEN PUSHING IS GETTING RID OF FLUORIDE.

OUR WATER SYSTEMS ARE MOSTLY FLUORINATED.

THIS WAS A BIG ISSUE IN THE 50S AND NOW IT'S BACK.

>> IT IS WILD BECAUSE THERE IS GOOD EVIDENCE THAT FLOURIDE IS QUITE BENEFICIAL, ESPECIALLY FOR GROWING BODIES.

I LIVE IN THE COUNTRY AND WE HAVE A WELL.

WE HAD TO DO EXTRA WORK WITH OUR KIDS TO MAKE SURE THEY HAD HEALTHY TEETH.

TENTIST, IF YOU ASK ANY GIVEN DENTIST, THEY WILL ASK WHAT ON EARTH IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.

SAME THING WITH PEDIATRICIANS AND VACCINE DISS WILL WE DO HAVE FLUORIDE IN TOOTH PASTE AND OTHER WAYS.

>> THAT'S NOT ENOUGH.

THE PROBLEM IS YOU NEED THE FLUORIDE IN DRINKING WATER TO HELP DEVELOP HEALTHY TEETH 12K3W4R-679 IS HE JUST DOING THIS ON HIS OWN.

DOES HE HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE PRESIDENT TO DO THESE THINGS?

>> HE HAS A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM THE BASE.

BLOGGERS, INFLUENCERS IN THE MEDIA THAT REALLY, REALLY SUPPORT AND MANY OF THEM ARE ACTUALLY LEFT WING, TOO, NOT JUST REPUBLICANS.

BUT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE VACCINE, YOU KNOW, SCEPTICISM, HOW FAR THAT WOULD GO, BUT IT SEEMS THAT HE ALSO WALKS A FINE LINE ON THAT PART.

HE IS NOT COMPLETELY AGAINST VACCINES.

HE SAYS IT'S UP TO THE PEOPLE.

YOU CAN'T FORCE PEOPLE TO DO IT.

>> NAME ALL THE SCEPTICS TO VACCINES TO THE IMPORTANT COUPLES THEN I THINK HE IS CLEARLY SHOWING HIS... >> THE MAN OF THE MOMENT IN NEW YORK CITY IS SO RAN PAM DANNY, THE YOUNG, CHARISMATIC DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST WHO MAY BE NEW YORK'S NEXT MAYOR.

MAMDANI CAME OUT OF NOWHERE TO WIN THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY.

HE RAN ON A PLATFORM OF FREEZING RENTS IN THE CITY'S RENT-CONTROLLED APARTMENTS, PROVIDING FREE, UNIVERSAL CHILD CARE, AND MAKING CITY BUSES, YOU GUESSED IT•.FREE.

NEW YORK'S BUSINESS CLASS IS OPPOSED, BUT MAMDANI UNDENIABLY HAS EXCITED YOUNG PEOPLE, LEADING TO A SURGE IN TURNOUT.

IS HE SHOWING OLD-SCHOOL THE ESTABLISHMENT DEMOCRATS THE WAY THE PARTY SHOULD MOVE FORWARD.

>> IT HAS BEEN SHOWN FOR A LONG TIME BEFORE.

THE DEMOCRATS DON'T UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE NO CONNECTION WITH THEIR BASE ANYMORE.

THEY LOOK SO STUPID WHEN THEY GO OUT AND START ATTACKING HIM FOR ISLAMIC PHOBIC REASONS.

I WILL QUOTE ONE SMALL LINE.

HE SAID IN HIS VICTORY SPEECH, A LIFE OF DIGNITY SHOULD NOT BE RESERVED FOR A FORTUNATE FEW.

I AGREE WITH THAT COMPLETELY.

NOW, PEOPLE START JUMPING UP AND DOWN, HYPERVENTILATING ABOUT FREE CHILD CARE FOR EVERY CHILD AGES SIX WEEKS TO FIVE YEARS.

THAT WINS BY 38-POINT MARGIN, FREEZING RENT FOR LOW INCOME TENANTS WINS BY 38% MARGIN.

GROCERY STORES KEEPING PRICES LOW, FREE BUSES, THESE ARE ALL 30 TO 40% MARGINS.

THERE ARE MANY PLACES IN THE UNITED STATES AND OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD WHERE PUBLIC TRANSPORT IS FREE.

IT'S NOT JUST NEW YORK CITY, RIGHT?

I THINK KANSAS CITY MISSOURI.

>> NEW YORK CITY HAS A LOT MORE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION THAN KANSAS CITY.

>> WHEN YOU POLL IT WITH THE REPUBLICANS, YOU SEE ABOUT 40% SUPPORTING THIS THING, RIGHT.

SO WHAT HE IS SHOWING, HE IS HOLDING A MIRROR IN FRONT OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY SAYING LOOK, IF YOU RUN A CAMPAIGN ON BREAD AND BUTTER ISSUES AND ARE AUTHENTIC AND GENERAL WIN, EVEN IF PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE IN YOU, THEY MIGHT VOTE FOR YOU.

>> YOU STILL HAVE TO PAY FOR THE BREAD AND BUTTER, RICK.

>> A COUPLE OF THINGS.

POOR ECONOMICS CAN MAKE GOOD POLITICS.

OKAY BECAUSE THE NUMBERS YOU HAVE FOR INSTANCE, RENT CONTROL, 90% OF ECONOMISTS SAY THIS IS BAD POLICY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A HOUSING AFFORDABILITY ISSUE.

YOU MENTIONED NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO THINK THESE ARE GOOD POLICIES.

SIMILAR THINK ALL THE TARIFFS THAT TRUMP IS GOING TO PUSH DOWN OUR THROATS ARE ALSO GOOD POLICY WHERE MOST ECONOMISTS THINK THEY ARE NOT.

I THINK PARTS OF HIS POLICIES, FOR INSTANCE, HE HAS IDENTIFIED A NUMBER OF PLACES THAT ARE FOOD DESERTS IN NEW YORK CITY.

HE IS NOT CALLING FOR EVERY GROCERY STORE TO BE RUN BY THE GOVERNMENT.

HE IS TALKING ABOUT IN CERTAIN PLACES-- >> FIVE, THAT'S RIGHT.

>> BOSTON IS ALREADY WORKED WITH MAKING SOME OF THEIR BUS LINES THAT GO AND CONNECT POOR NEIGHBORHOODS WITH OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS, FREE.

SO SOME OF THESE THINGS, I THINK, MAKE A LOT OF SENSE.

OTHERS LIKE THE RENT CONTROL, FREEZING RENTS SOUND LIKE THE EASY FIX, AND THEY'RE NOT.

>> I WONDER, LUKE, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IF YOU ARE A MAYOR OF ANY CITY, PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY I SUPPOSE NEW YORK, IT'S THINGS LIKE GETTING THE GARBAGE PICKED UP AND THE STREETS PLOWED IN THE WINTER THAT MAKE A SUCCESSFUL MAYOR.

>> PEOPLE WANT GOOD SERVICES.

AND IF YOU CAN DELIVER THAT, THEY WILL BE HAPPY WITH YOU.

I'M INTRIGUED BY YOUR POINT, ANIRBAN, I THINK THAT MESSAGING COMES TO MIND, RIGHT?

IF WE CALL THESE PRACTICAL AFFORDABILITY MEASURES, THE BUSES, AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, I THINK THAT CAN WORK, RIGHT?

IF WE CALL IT DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST IN A CENTER RIGHT COUNTRY THAT WILL WORK IN VERMONT AND NEW YORK CITY BUT NOT MOST OTHER PLACES.

SO PUTTING MY CAMPAIGN HAT, THAT COMES TO MIND.

AND I THINK MAMDANI WAS TERRIBLY CHARISMATIC.

HE IS DOING VIDEOS ON TIKTOK JUMPING INTO THE WATERS IN CONEY ISLAND AND WALKING SEVEN HOURS THROUGH MANHATTAN MEETING PEOPLE AND HAVING A VIRTUAL PRESENCE.

THAT PIECE ALSO IN TERMS OF CAMPAIGNING, I WOULD MIMIC IN THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE OF DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES.

>> AND HE ALSO UNDERSTOOD THAT THE PUBLIC OPINION AGAINST ISRAEL HAS SHIFTED SO MUCH OVER THE LAST FIVE OR SIXES YEARS THAT THE DEMOCRATS DON'T UNDERSTAND, EVEN AMONG YOUNG REPUBLICANS TODAY, 38% ARE IN FAVOR OF PALESTINE OVER ISRAEL.

SO THAT'S VERY INTERESTING.

>> I WANT TO GET JENNY INTO THE CONVERSATION.

>> IN TERMS OF THE CAMPAIGN, THE ANDREW CUOMO'S CAMPAIGN WAS OLD STYLE CAMPAIGN, BASICALLY RAN TELEVISION ADS.

IT DIDN'T WORK.

DEMOCRATIC PARTY NEEDS TO PAY ATTENTION TO THEIR 34ESAGEING ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

>> THAT'S A HUGE ISSUE FOR THEM.

AND IF YOU THINK OF THE PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN WE HAD, I MEAN WE SAW THAT AGAIN.

WE HAVE SEEN THAT IN THE LAST SEVERAL PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS WHERE THE DEMOCRATS ARE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL ON THAT, BEHIND THE TIMES I GUESS I SHOULD SAY.

SPEAKING OF THE PRESIDENT, I MEAN HE IS ALREADY TURNING MAMDANI INTO A TARGET.

>> HE IS ATTACKING HIM SAYING WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT HIS NATURALIZATION CITIZEN.

WHEN WHERE WAS HE WHEN 9/11 HAPPENED.

HE WAS NINE YEARS OLD.

>> WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT MAMDANI AND CUOMO AND ADAMS.

IT IS GOING TO BE AN INTERESTING FALL ELECTION SEASON.

>> IT IS ASTONISHING TO ME A CITY OF EIGHT MILLION PEOPLE CAN COME UP WITH THOSE FOUR PEOPLE RUNNING FOR OFFICE AND NOBODY ELSE.

>> THAT'S THE OTHER PIECE OF THIS.

NEW YORK CITY DEMOGRAPHICALLY IS A YOUNG CITY RELATIVELY SPEAKING SO THAT TENDS TO FAVOR, I THINK, DIFFERENT WAYS OF APPROACHING POLITICS THAN SAY ANDREW CUOMO STYLE POLITICIAN-- POLITICIAN.

PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF CORRUPTION.

BACK TO RICK'S POINT AND TO LUKE'S POINT, WE REALLY WANT GOVERNMENT SERVICES THAT WORK AND I THINK IF MAMDANI CAN DEMONSTRATE THAT HE CAN ACTUALLY DEMONSTRATE THAT HE CAN DO GOOD GOVERNMENT, THAT COULD BE AN IMPORTANT SIGNAL FOR DEMOCRATS AS WELL.

>> I AGREEY WITH YOU.

THERE IS A SAYING THAT THE LANDLORDS OWN THE CITY AND THEY RENT OUT MAYORS FROM TIME TO TIME.

I THINK HE DISRUPTS THAT PARTICULAR CYCLE.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE LARGER DATA, LARGER LANDLORDS HOLD 20 TO 60 OR MORE BUILDINGS ARE THE BIGGIEST RECIPIENT OF THE RENT CONTROL.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE MOM AND MOP LANDLORDS THAT PEOPLE TALK ABOUT.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RENT FREEZING IT, INCREASING IT 1 TO 2% PER YEAR.

MARKET ECONOMICS DOES NOT WORK BECAUSE MARKET IS FAILING.

>> PUT YOUR MONEY IN NEW YORK CITY IF YOU THINK THAT WORKS.

>> IF THERE IS MARKET FAILURE AND THIS IS AN ESSENTIAL GOOD, WHICH IS HOUSING AND IF THE MARKET FAILS, THERE HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF RENT CONTROL, YOU KNOW, INCREASED CONTROL, ONE TO 2% PER YEAR AND THAT WOULD HELP OUT PEOPLE, NOT JUST LANDLORDS.

>> THE BUSINESS CLASS IS VERY MUCH OPPOSED TO MAMDANI NOW AND SO AND THERE IS A DIVISION WITHIN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AS WELL.

WE FEED TO GO TO AS AND EVs.

LUKE, YOUR E EF,.

>> TO AMERICA'S MEASLES RATE REACHING A 30 YEAR HIGH, 1300 CASES AFTER BEING ERADICATED IN 2000.

PER THE CDC OVER 90% OF THESE THESE, WHO NEEDS ENEMIES.

>> RICK.

>> THE ISSUE OF ICE IMMIGRATION RAIDS HAS BEEN DISCUSSING ON "IVORY TOWER" A NUMBER OF TIMES.

THE END OF JUNE, THE TOPIC HIT CLOSE TO HOME WHEN OFFICIALS ARRESTED ZHIANG IN CAM CAMDEN NEW YORK.

HE OWNS AND OPERATED A POPULAR RESTAURANT.

HE VOTED OVERWHELMINGLY FOR TRUMP AND EVEN TRUMP SUPPORTERS WERE SHOCKED AT WHAT HAPPENED "THESE ARE NOT THE IMMIGRANTS PEOPLE VOTED TO HAVE SENT AWAY."

>> AS.

>> UNFORTUNATELY GUN VIOLENCE IS A MEARNLG PROBLEM IN UTICA AND MY A GOES TO SNUG, WHICH IS GUNS SMELLED BACKWARDS.

A LOCAL UTICA ORGANIZATION THAT SEEKS TO HELP PREVENT GUN VIOLENCE AND ASSIST AT RISK COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

THEY RECENTLY HELD A PEACE RALLY FOLLOWING THE FOURTH OF JULY SHOOTINGS IN CORNHILL.

>> MY A GOES TO THE SUNY ESF RESEARCH TEAM THAT DEVELOPED A MODIFIED CHESTNUT TREE THAT CAN WITH STAND THE BLIGHT THAT HAS DEVASTATED THIS MAJESTIC TREE THROUGHOUT THE UNS UNITED STATES.

WE MOVED A STEP CLOSER AS THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE DEEMED THE TREE DOES NOT MOTION A RISK TO THE GOVERNMENT PUBLIC.

YOU CAN HELP SAVE THE CHESTNUT FROM EXTENSION.

>> WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT ON THE SHOW ONE DAY.

ANIRBAN, YOUR A.

>> TO REFERENCE SUE FOR HER UNTIRING ACTIVISM FOR CLIMATE JUSTICE AND AGAINST MASS SLAUGHTER OF WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN GAZA.

SHE IS AN INSPIRATION TO PEOPLE WHO CAN SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER AND GET ARRESTED FOR IT.

>> IKEA WILL BE OPENING A STORE IN DESTINY MALL.

IT HAS A CULT FOLLOWING, ESPECIALLY FOR ITS MEATBALLS.

THERE IS ONLY GOING TO BE 70,000 SQUARE FEET.

GOOD NEWS FOR THE PYRAMID CORPORATION WHICH DETOLT FAKED ON ITS MORTGAGE LAST YEAR.

I DON'T WANT TO OVERSIGHT THE IMPORTANCE OF A SINGLE RETAIL STORE BUT THIS IS WELCOME NEWS TO CENTRAL NEW YORK SHOPPERS, THE MALL OWNERS AND PERHAPS SYRACUSE TAXPAYERS.

>> THE MALL HAS HAD TROUBLE HOLDING ON TO TENANTS SO THIS IS A PRETTY BIG DEAL FOR THEM.

FOR THE PAST FEW WEEKS, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT HOW THE FEDERAL FUNDING IS COMING TO AN END FOR PBS, AND HOW IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO PROTECT THIS VALUABLE RESOURCE THAT HAS BEEN A HOME FOR SHOWS LIKE IVORY TOWER.

HERE'S A WORD FROM PBS THAT WILL TELL YOU MORE.

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PBSZ IS ONE OF AMERICA'S GREATEST RESOURCES FOR 50 YEARS STRONG AND PBS NEEDS YOUR HELP TO KEEP GOING FOR ANOTHER 50.

>> WE WILL HAVE DONE A GREAT SERVICE.

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